kommari: (pesec)
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Вот такие заправки в этом городе:



Вообще с огромным интересом читаю фэйсбуки жителей этого города. И вот что заметил - их поразительная выдержка.

Некоторые, конечно, проклинают карателей и призывают сто хуёв им в зад все кары небесные на них. Некоторые просто фиксируют: "вчера снаряд попал в кафешку, убило целую семью, женщине оторвало голову, ее нашли только на следующий день".

Я не встречал никогда упреков к ополченцам.

И, что еще удивительнее, к России. Хотя даже у меня сложилось впечатление из путинской пресс-конференции весной, что русская армия не останется безучастной, если Киев будет беспредельничать. Поначалу, собственно, и Киев явно боялся распускать руки, и, только увидев, что ответки из РФ нет, стал повышать градус убийств.

К украинской армии презрение тотальное. Опять же, вспоминаю, как весной в форумах и соцсетях донецкие писали: "Пусть только сунутся - огребут!"

В принципе так и случилось.

Date: 2014-08-27 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iskra31.livejournal.com
пора делать выводы из войны
http://iskra31.livejournal.com/76889.html
есть что сказать?

Date: 2014-08-27 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kommari.livejournal.com
В принципе Вы написали все лаконично и правильно, только непонятно, что дальше.

Мне вот все больше кажется, что информационное оружие нужно приравнять к ядерному и другому ОМП и как-то начать регулировать-контролировать-сдерживать, если не получится запретить.

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Date: 2014-08-27 01:29 pm (UTC)
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>>Победа пророссийских геополитических интересов, в сложившейся ообстановке позволит избежать ещё большего кровопролития в обозримом будущем.
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>>Если не хочешь заниматься политикой - политика будет заниматься тобой.
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Date: 2014-08-27 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pharmazevt.livejournal.com
Вот это самое перерождение коммунистов в ордынцы и погубило СССР, причем перерождение случилось в тридцатых.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plan-pu.livejournal.com
начало размонтажу СССР было положено в 53-м
под сурдинку конвертации чиновничей власти в реальное бабло - визит Хрущева в Англию, мысли об "общечеловеческих ценностях", куусиненская шинелька надолго прикрывшая хрущевские перегибы из под которой наконец появилось андроповско-горбачевское "перестроечное" мурло


Революция о необходимости которой говорил товарищ Троцкий, таки победила, дорогие дгузья-товагищи

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Date: 2014-08-27 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gerat.livejournal.com
Вот Басманов/Поткин у себя в жж уже не один месяц, выгораживая хунту, пишет что в ДНР и ЛНР собрались одни коммунисты и советские.

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Date: 2014-08-27 09:46 am (UTC)
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Горбачев - ордынец?? Вы в своем уме?

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Date: 2014-08-27 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] festung.livejournal.com
Ага, если бы не "перерождение"(просто люди стали реалистами) - тогда бы СССР точно не существовало уже к 30-м.

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Date: 2014-08-27 08:49 am (UTC)
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Донбасс вообще оказался крепкими парнями.

Date: 2014-08-27 01:30 pm (UTC)
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Только почему-то похороны прошли не на Донбассе.

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Date: 2014-08-27 08:51 am (UTC)
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А что пишут из Мариуполя и Новоазовска? Жалуются, что каратели обстреливают свои же города? Готовятся встречать освободителей?

Date: 2014-08-27 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kommari.livejournal.com
Надо будет поискать.
Но вообще насчет Мариуполя, как я понимаю, типичные обделанные штаны у ваших друзей.

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Date: 2014-08-27 09:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Поражает их трудолюбие? аккуратность? не знаю, как это качество назвать. Еще не убраны трупы, а население уже метет улицу, битое стекло собирает.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] van-der-moloth.livejournal.com
"Пусть только сунутся - огребут!"
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Пока что огребла местная тетка, которую обвинили в том, что она сыпала стекло в масло и снимала чулки, чтобы вызвать бурю.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kommari.livejournal.com
Если она действительно была наводчицей - местных понять можно.

Хотя и не дело. Но это не нам, попивая кофеек за монитором, рассуждать.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsQgobyPrx0

Date: 2014-08-27 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] van-der-moloth.livejournal.com
Кстати, говорят рашкованские каратели и донецкая хунта обстреляли больницу в Новоазовске.
Но я так понимаю, хохлов нечего жалеть.

Date: 2014-08-27 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bauris.livejournal.com
Они и своих не жалеют. Я у вас выкладывал:

Image

https://vk.com/tppopasnayauk?w=wall-59104429_29731

Попасная, 3 августа, спустя две недели после освобождения украинцами. Мина прилетела из соседнего Первомайска, что остается под боевиками, убила четверых мирных велосипедистов. В комментариях друзья и родственники убитых.

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Date: 2014-08-27 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bauris.livejournal.com
https://vk.com/donetsklive - донецкое замайданное/прокиевское сообщество, 15 тыс. участников.
https://vk.com/donetsk - основной донецкий паблик, 243 тыс. участников, старается придерживаться нейтралитета, прокиевских и антироссийски настроенных участников тоже хватает.
https://vk.com/lugansk_city - главный луганский паблик, 131 тыс. участников, на 70-80% проукраинский.

Это все не тянет на социологию, конечно, но как бы говорит, что все весьма неоднозначно на самом деле...

Date: 2014-08-27 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] van-der-moloth.livejournal.com
И еще надо россиян вычесть. Зимой в антимайданных группах их было подавляющее большинство.

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Date: 2014-08-27 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pravdorub-russ.livejournal.com
Веннопленный каратель из "Правого Сектора".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oflyD2RcyRg

Date: 2014-08-27 09:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Странно от вас такое слышать. Я так прекрасно всё понимаю, и не представляю, что вёл бы себя иначе. Простая логика: "Ну раз уж началось, что поделать". Начать было страшно, а дальше русский менталитет делает своё дело, нам ли привыкать к войнам.
А касательно упрёков в сторону России. Во-первых, русский человек не глуп и в данной конкретной ситуации понял обстоятельства. А во-вторых, вот, например, интересный моментик (и вообще всё не на поверхности - это надо понимать): https://twitter.com/kp_steshin/status/502180680533815296

Date: 2014-08-27 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Виталий Владимирович (from livejournal.com)
простите, не хочется региться. что там если своими словами?

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Date: 2014-08-27 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] van-der-moloth.livejournal.com
Кстати, тут представители ДНР заявили, что не будут обсуждать вопрос о прекращении огня, поскольку сейчас им это невыгодно.
Я так понимаю - когда будут снова отступать, снова будут постить фоточки убитых гражданских, а сейчас это не ко времени.

Date: 2014-08-27 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scif-yar.livejournal.com
Данные о потерях родителям и женам военных сообщил заместитель командира дивизии гвардии, полковник, представившийся Александром Хотулевым: два контрактника, личности которых установлены, погибли; около десяти — ранены и находятся в госпиталях Ростова; девять солдат, имена которых ранее называли в СБУ Украины, задержаны украинцами.

Читать полностью: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/27/08/2014/945298.shtml

Это только полуофициально и только в Костромском полку. Есть еще Псков, Иваново и так далее.
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Date: 2014-08-27 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] Александр Коровников (from livejournal.com)
в пскове одумались и свинтили таблички с крестов (венки от сослуживцев из вдв правда не убрали).

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Date: 2014-08-27 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scif-yar.livejournal.com
>>Опять же, вспоминаю, как весной в форумах и соцсетях донецкие писали: "Пусть только сунутся - огребут!"
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вот только почему-то огребают ВС РФ, а население Донецка не в восторге.

Date: 2014-08-27 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kommari.livejournal.com
Вы в Донецке живете?

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From: [identity profile] Александр Коровников (from livejournal.com)
антифашисты же.

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